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3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:44 pm
by Crusher
Hello Everyone,

I played Tour Pro for a week everyday. I discovered that Tour Pro swing meter is crisper and more precise when trying to hit the Snap (6 o'clock). I was amazed at how easily I could hit 6 o'clock compared to Pro, Amateur and Hacker.

I posted this as a game-glitch at Perfect Parallel. I prefer to play Pro because I simply don't like the aiming process in Tour Pro. Pro and other levels give us the Top Cam for actual aiming whereas Tour Pro it's just a view of the course. This has always been true of the highest levels of golf games with 3click meters i.e. Links, Tiger Woods and JNPG.

If you are a member of PP Forums you can read the post under Perfect Golf Bug Reporting.
http://www.perfectparallel.com/topic/92 ... -tour-pro/

Re: 3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:32 pm
by Affo
Lee,

I get the slides at Tour Pro and at Pro when OGT set their levels for various events. I don't get loads, but it is more dependant on the course FPS rate I find, the lower they are, the more often the slides.

Just my findings.

Re: 3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:19 pm
by OnyxCarp
Funny that you mentioned this Lee, because my perfect snap ratio on TP is waaay higher than on Pro. Seems to me you have a good call here.

Re: 3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:28 am
by Crusher
OnyxCarp wrote:Funny that you mentioned this Lee, because my perfect snap ratio on TP is waaay higher than on Pro. Seems to me you have a good call here.

Glad you commented on this topic. I am waiting for a few others who will be as forthcoming as you and me. This is a long time problem with JNPG. All levels should have a precision Snap, not just Tour Pro.

:drinks:

Re: 3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:01 am
by OnyxCarp
IMO 'precision snap' for all levels is not the solution, unless you mean that snap misses of +/- 1 degree should be negated. It is a long time gripe for me that almost every long shot I play (especially approaches) on Pro level turn out suboptimal due to what I call mini off-snaps (less than one or two degrees deviation). Apart from the occasional really bad hits, about 96% of all shots that I consider 'true' have this mini-offset, so counting on wind effect or targetting green slopes disappointingly mostly only live up in theory /// Join the #whybotherprecisionaiming movement LOL

After your initial post I was truly amazed that I was able to hit more zero deviation perfect snaps on TP (plusminus 1 in 10 versus 1 in 25). I must say that there should be a penalty for a bad timed stroke to keep things sim like. But that hitting true on TP is more likely to happen than on Pro level is very strange to put it nicely. Maybe a possible easy fix: to interchange the params for snapping/sliding between the pro and TP levels...
:rofl:

On a sidenote - just like you I prefer using the minimap as a means to setup a shot (hereby hopefully countering the obvious reply that I should migrate to TP level).

Re: 3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:00 am
by Crusher
Precision Snap can be confusing. I should be more clear about what I mean:

When the mouse button is pressed the response to the click is immediate and crisp in Tour Pro compared to Pro and other levels.

Penalties for actual bad snaps: I would not have any changes made to the "bad timing" of a player missing the Snap due to lack of focus, over swinging etc. The penalties for missing the Snap are fine IMO.

The meter in all other levels should be as sharp and responsive as they are in Tour Pro. The only term I can think of regarding other levels would be a "loose Snap" when the mouse button is pressed.

I hope that helps everyone who is following this topic.

Re: 3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:07 pm
by Tresclub
Are you talking about a mili-second delay between the pressing of the mouse button, and the response in the game?

Re: 3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:36 am
by Crusher
Tresclub wrote:Are you talking about a mili-second delay between the pressing of the mouse button, and the response in the game?

Yes. Click and expect the response to be faster than Pro, AM and HA. And. You can play knowing the meter is not going to "slide" past the 6 when you "knew" you had a perfect snap.

Temporarily set your player to Tour Pro and hit some practice swings, I'd say 20 swings in practice mode. Then play out a hole or two in solo mode. The meter response is super-accurate and you can hit a perfect Snap far more often in Tour Pro than other levels.

:drinks:

Re: 3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:30 am
by Crusher
The JNPG Official tournaments are through for August 2017. The image below shows just how much better I can play in Tour Pro, all due to the Snap precision. I normally would be in the top 10 or 15 as Pro player. Will I continue as a Tour Player? No way! It's not fun to do all the aiming on the forward view for me. Blah. Scores in Pro tournies are much higher because of the unpredictable meter. Give us a meter in Pro level that is as precise as the Tour Pro meter and the entire Pro vs Tour Pro dynamic will change overnight.

If the meters were exact in their performance would some Pro players move to Tour Pro? Yes, some would move to Tour Pro. Most likely just for the double points earned in tournaments (points :thumbdown: - something I feel strongly against but needs to be in another discussion].

It took a lot of focus and slow play but I knew I could rely on the Snap on most every shot. Of course I missed some snaps due to loss of focus but that's my fault, not the fault of the meter.

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Re: 3Click Pro vs 3Click Tour Pro

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:42 am
by MiMiC
Can I at this point add a nugget of information in to your Tour Pro experience? I am not a clicker, so nothing to add on that front, though I can't say I have noticed any difference in the admittedly infrequent testing I did to establish how much of a level playing field the swings represented.

You may be aware already, but if not, Tour Pro doesn't need to be the aiming lottery you are finding it to be. If you use the free camera to travel to your desired aim location, you can then drop the aim post in that view. As long as you do not use any other view button (f2 and f3) you can return to the main view and play the shot without losing that aim point.

Lets not even start to go with a critique of our points system. I think you know what my answer will be on that. Suffice to say, for someone as intensely competitive as you and many of our members are, the system we arrived at encourages play at higher levels rather than players keeping below the level their innate talents.