PGLS

As per the previous month, the player movements for February 2019 will take place this evening ready for the new month starting Fri 2nd February 2019.


Promoted from Pro to Tour Pro due to continued good scoring, congratulations:

LZ Paul
Cestrian


These players averaged under the 63.76 threshold needed for Tier movement. The overall average for Pro players for January (ignoring the highest and lowest 10%) was 68.93

Players permitted to move to Amateur level if they wish:

FJcruiser2009
stevemel
Murfman89
freddy
UncleBill
sk1pmcgee
Dmanz56
PAPA G
SKUNKY
schda
chuckschacht
chipmaster23660

Promoted from Amateur to Pro level due to continued good scoring are:

UK4LifeBBN
Stevemaccal

These players averaged under the 65.23 threshold needed for Tier movement. The overall average for Pro players for January (ignoring the highest and lowest 10%) was 70.52

Players permitted to move to Hacker level if they wish:

luforobot1
itsthetodman
CwBDaveIs
longdrive
Gerfaut
MWOJC05
grizzly06
kater
aubrey

Promoted from Hacker to Amateur level due to continued good scoring are:

No players promoted from Hacker Tier

Players permitted to move to Pro level if they wish from Tour Pro:

These players averaged more than the average Tour Pro score plus 7.5% - 71.11

chank038
Briso

Good luck for February everyone.

Andy

In my view the players average should determine their level not their own wishes. giving players the option to move or not just distorts everything. One player who should be an ammy but chooses to play pro and then builds his handicap to a mind blowing +18. this makes the handicap and average system a farce.

It is/was too late to change anything for February, there will be changes for how Tier movements are conducted for the new Season in March. There is no 1 ideal solution.

The trouble is, you cannot really force a player to play at a lower level if a player wants the challenge of playing a higher level, if we went the way of say ave 60-64 is Tour Pro, 65-68 is Pro, 69-72 is Amateur and above 72 is Hacker...you'll have players manipulating their scores a lot more than currently, imho.

As I said, we will try to block as many loopholes as possible but keeping the ideal that this is a game and lots just play for fun....apparently!

Once again Andy, thanks for keeping up with this.

Perc

The trouble is, you cannot really force a player to play at a lower level if a player wants the challenge of playing a higher level, if we went the way of say ave 60-64 is Tour Pro, 65-68 is Pro, 69-72 is Amateur and above 72 is Hacker...you'll have players manipulating their scores a lot more than currently, imho.

Do players that are shooting an average of 80 as Hacker want to play as Tour Pro? Let them. Easy to make some adjustments in that regard.

Players manipulate scores? Easy to figure them out, and KICK them out. Kind of like cheating isn't it? What happens to players that are caught cheating?

60-64 Tour Pro, 65-68 is Pro, 69-72 is Amateur and above 72 is Hacker. That's a place to start. It makes more sense than a Amateur with an average of 60. If you can shoot that low then you should be a Tour Pro. Put them in the Tour Pro category. After a few tournaments they will eventually be moved into the spot they should be.

I understand this has got to be one of the most difficult things to make adjustments to and calculate. You'll never please everyone. Players score averages after playing in tournaments should give you some idea where they belong. If they get moved to a more difficult level, it wont be long, after playing a couple tournaments, that they are moved back into their previous level. I'm exaggerating here but it doesn't make sense that a person averaging 60 should be playing as a Hacker and a person averaging 80 playing as a Tour Pro. Just my opinion.

The conflict comes between levels and handicaps. let a player play above his score average level and it just boosts his handicap. Each level should have a maximum handicap.