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Simple Question

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:32 am
by Affo
Mud has been slung...again, against the better players, but interested to know the general consensus of opinion, so a simple yes or no question:

Do you think the top players cheat in any way (BLI and grid are allowed under Tour Pro and not cheating)?

No need to comment, not intended to be a discussion, just purely tick a box with your honest answer which is anonymous.

Thank you.

Re: Simple Question

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 6:21 pm
by Affo
come on guys/gals, make a choice, plenty of viewers, simple yes or no, no one can see how you voted, so no witch hunt for those who think the best players cheat...it's a free shot if you think that way and if you don't, some support goes a long way too. :)

Re: Simple Question

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:46 am
by Affo
Ok, 25 viewpoints out of about 100ish regular members that sign in every day or so. I could either take it that 7 out of about 100 believe cheating is going on (people are more likely to voice a negative opinion than positive if given an option I believe) so a small proportion or, 7 out of the 25, or just over a quarter which would be a shame.

To those who believe the top players cheat, I know what I type will probably be ignored, but I have NEVER cheated on PGLS. I have played here since late 2016 and if anyone really thought I cheated and still do after nearly 3 years while putting all the time in to provide stats and other events, then sorry, you are mistaken, I have just found a game (after 30 odd years of searching) I happen to be one of the better players at and have steadily improved over that time.

Personally, I use the assists permitted as Tour Pro and nothing else, nor am I actually really aware of how you can cheat (although I was told of one but it was so out there that doing it would be so obvious stats wise and it involved changing things which is all rather time consuming and pointless). If you believe the cheat criers, you can use a program to slow the meter, but that is pointless too, there is a timing anticheat on the meter, slow it down and your shots are going nowhere, so again, what's the point? I also have no reason at all to think anyone else is trying to cheat, if they were, they're not doing a very good job now are they?

So to people like Tigers' *wat (always losing, just doesn't know it), BOWHUNTER as 2 who have been so brave enough to outwardly call people cheats from behind their keyboards, shut up and put up and improve, or politely, go forth and multiply elsewhere.

That's that put to bed, you can think what you like, free world and all that..but the above is the truth.

Re: Simple Question

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:07 am
by Ragnar
sorry i saw this poll first today and couldn't vote. but i feel there a Cheaters active

Re: Simple Question

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:13 am
by Affo
How?

You have to judge power, direction, wind, elevation, lie of the ball (side slope, up slope). How can you manipulate all of that?

Re: Simple Question

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:55 am
by Ragnar
How it's possible to play every Round on every Setting every Week most Rounds with an average of - 10 per Round? I think about Results like that it's normal to make thoughts about cheating. Especial there's only a small Group of Players who plays Results like that every week. For me it's no Problem because i didn't play about a Place in Top 3, but all of my german friends think like me that couldn't be serious. sorry Andy

Re: Simple Question

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:04 am
by Affo
Ok, understand yours and your friends opinions.

How would it be possible to change this point of view? I would like to understand how you think cheating is done, then some form of proof otherwise could be looked for?

Re: Simple Question

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:25 am
by NIBNOB
Nobody cheats.....whats the point?.....how boring would it be to win by cheating week after week?.....we've all played this game for years now, we should be getting better at it.......some players are just slightly better than others.... simples

Re: Simple Question

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:58 am
by Ragnar
Gents, it's not necessary to start now a Discussion. My Friends and me are wondering how it could work that some Players can play every Round such good Results. I personal play 3 of 4 Rounds good but i also have every Tournament a bad Round. The most of my Friends (Haesy007 is one of them) have the same Problem like me. And so we talk in Teamspeak how it's possible to play such an good average every Round on every Setting like some of the "Super Golfers" - that's normal or? But please don't make now a Drama ;)

Re: Simple Question

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 11:13 am
by Affo
All good Hans, look at my Divisions score round 4...I would have preferred not to have that double on my card!! :) I too have bad holes