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PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:15 pm
by Affo
Spoiler - if you are not into Rankings in any way, press back on your browser and save yourself some time, this will not interest you!

I have created a PGLS ranking system based on the real life golf World Rankings which can be found here: http://www.owgr.com/

Obviously it is tweaked to fit into PGLS schedules and the fact we have different levels playing on the same leaderboards, but here is a brief synopsis:

Last 28 events count (so about 8-9 weeks depending on PGLS Open finish date) - the last 14 events points count fully, with the older 14 events having diminishing amounts added to the total. This is a rolling amount, so as new events finished, the oldest ones totally drop away.

Tournament points are determined on the entry list - the more players and the more top players that enter (complete the event), the more points that event is worth.

As all levels are classified on the same leaderboard - Tour Pros get the full 100% of points earned, Pros 60%, Amateurs 30% and Hackers 15% to take into consideration the reductions in penalties for each level.

The minimum divisor in use is 10 events, so a player cannot turn up, win and event an enter the rankings at no1, best you could get if it's a tough field is top 15. So if you won all events entered, currently you would not get to no1 until the 2nd week. In real life this is pretty similar - you'd have to enter 4 Majors, win all 4 in a single year and you'd get to No1.

The maximum divisor is 20 events, so if you play more than 20 out of the 28, you are getting a better divisor...a sort of thanks for playing that much.

The real life divisors are min 40 and max 52 over their 2 year cycle for info.


To create these rankings, I have taken the events commencing 2nd Sept 2016 onwards, when the tournaments settled into a regular pattern, but the current rankings only take into consideration the events since the last update now.

If you have any question/queries, please feel free to either reply to this post or you can contact me direct @ statto01@outlook.com

Thanks for taking the time to read, I shall post last week's standings soon. Hope you like this addition.

Andy

Edit - lmao - might help if I said which events counted!!! weekly PGA9, PGA18, Stableford and monthly PGLS Open.

Re: PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:47 am
by Affo

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as at Thur 16th Feb					
	                Pos	Pts	Level	   No Event  Divisor
Affo	            1	12.08	Tour Pro	11     	11
Mmmduff1	        2	10.29	Tour Pro	13     	13
Domino	          3	 7.93   Pro   	  9         10
richybro01	      4 	4.35   Tour Pro	7         10
Sandybunker	     5	 4.02   Tour Pro	25     	20
Riddler	         6	 3.75   Tour Pro	27     	20
ergo76prop	      7	 3.66   Pro    	 18        18
scienceguy18	    8	 3.57   Tour Pro	15     	15
altaedm	         9	 3.40   Tour Pro	11        11
gatekeeper	      10	3.21   Pro    	 8         10
As you can see from above:

Top Tour Pros -

1 Affo
2 Mmduff1
4 richybro

Top Pros -

3 Domino
7 ergo76prop
10 gatekeeper

Top Amateurs -

34 kypran
35 BOWHUNTER615
40 SandBlaster101

Top Hackers -

74 Tresclub
104 catmanal

Re: PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:41 am
by IanD
Interesting and always interested in these types of data details.... so am I right in thinking the only use of data is the finishing position upon a Leaderboard?

The actual scores achieved are irrelevant... ?

Re: PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:18 pm
by Affo
Correct Ian..just final position on the leaderboard (and you must complete the event).

Regarding actual scores.....mmmm, that gets me thinking.

Re: PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:44 pm
by bobfletch
Great idea - we had a very similar ranking system over at http://gbc.inthetour.com/world_rankings/index which was automatically updated every week and worked very well. I don't think it took into account individual rounds though - but if you clicked on a player it would show how many points were earned for each tournament. Also, each tourney's 'value' was determined by the amount of prize money each event had to offer.

Looking forward to your next update!

Re: PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:06 pm
by Affo
Thanks Bob..checked that site and that looked like heaven for a numbers nerd!

Below is a direct link to the full rankings showing the current position, last week's position, level, pts gained in that week and lost with number of events and divisor along with best ranking achieved.

http://affo1.emyspot.com/pages/pgls-world-rankings.html

Re: PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:31 pm
by IanD
This is where I find thesxe Rankings a tad harder to 'believe'. Based upon actual entry....

I could be the one of Top 3 if I played enough of these... which again, shouldn't always be ignored. Participation itself, is justice for rewarding results. However, I do feel the rewards are too high.

My entry into the Rankings you display, is quite low.... where I honestly feel, at my level of Pro, based upon the Leaderboards I participate, is an injustice. Admittedly, only 5 Pro players have completed the PGA 18 at present, but I'm top of those 5. Your records have my name around 26th Pro... so a World Ranking is penalised for participation ?

I'm sure I'm not thinking clearly, so your help would be grateful..

Re: PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:50 pm
by Affo
Hi Ian,

It is the leaderboard as a whole which is used. It's not a case of being in top3 of the Pros. If you finish high up the leaderboard, you will gain more points multiplied by 0.6 as a Pro. You have 3 events counting full points, the rest are now diminishing each event. Only difference to real life is the Pro "penalty" of 0.6.

Let's look at examples - Toonarooni has played the same number of events as you in the counting period, but he has 2 overall top 10s which gets good points. Domino also has 9 counting events, but he has outright won 2 events, has 2 second places and a third. The rankings give a decent overall picture I believe, you may disagree of course, I have no problem with that. Are they fool proof? of course not, but with my limited knowledge and interest, it's a close enough thing to real world rankings a pc game and spreadsheet I can produce.

Just to iterate, these are not Official rankings, the owners knew I was doing this, but it is by choice alone and personal interest/enjoyment that these have been created.

Re: PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:51 pm
by Crusher
I think World Rankings negatively effect a communities morale. In fact, WGR can become divisive.

World Rankings are most fun for players who have all the time in the world to finish the events that are used to record the data.

A player's stats are important to view as a "player history". I think we are all having fun with different events.

I suggest we simply are able to view a players stats without those stats putting them into another so called Leader Board.

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Re: PGLS "World" Rankings

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:54 pm
by BladeRunner
Crusher wrote:I think World Rankings negatively effect a communities morale.
I agree with that, if one places well or wins a tournament that's enough. There name is up there on the leader-board for that week, next week its someones else,s turn.