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terbal wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:21 pm The tour now is going to be the pga18 in all but name

In what way was it going to go?

Let people choose a lower level to shoot more low scores for you not to believe and shout the game is going to pot? (with the usual comprehensive back up points).

There will be more different winners, fact...2 Tours, but it was setup that you have to play against some of the top players week in week out as it was assigned based on geography. There will be weeks when those players are guesting on the other Tour...a new winner will happen.

Some events will see good close leaderboards, like this week's American Tour, depends who plays where.

But, there will be low scoring, same as all the golf games.

that wont stop the end of season leaderboards being exactly like they have always been. so you have to rely on the luck of the draw and be lucky to pick an event that the top players are not in? but if people could have played at the level they wanted they might have had more fun.
perhaps the fairer way would have been to let people see which events people are playing? im sure real pros look at the field before they enter an event to see where their best chance was?

The first purpose, imho, is to have fun. The second is to compete with your fellow players or a certain individual. The third is to compete directly with players using the same difficulty level. That's why I really liked it when they changed leaderboard option to be just players using your level or overall. I started at Pro even though at Links Tour I played Elite. I wanted to learn, enjoy and be able to compete and Pro was much more conducive to my ability until I felt I was ready for Tour Pro. The current system is fair.

apart from having a lucky dip at the start of a season and picking 8 events you hope wont have the top players in i cant see any difference from the pga18. but no doubt the usual gang wont like this post as above but who cares. not the site i joined at the very start which is sad.

As I've stated before, the only true handicap system is a handicap system based on scoring. We have many methods of play within the game itself. Then add on what to play those methods with, a mouse, controller, trackpad, sim, etc . . .and it gives more separation because there are more options. Then consider the limitation of devices, internet connection, computer speed, physical ability, and that adds even more fluctuation to the already many differing levels of competition. A handicap on scoring alone, not levels, would allow players to feel comfortable at whatever method, device, or level of physical ability they choose (it is a game for fun, right), and yet be on the same level. This allows people to have good weeks and be in contention, and bad weeks not so much. Like Terbal said, there will not be any bringing together with this format. The best players are playing click at tour pro level. That just so happens to be what gets most points, hmmmm. Some people cannot compete at that level because of limitations to device, play style, and physical ability, hmmm. Just food for thought. Love the tour though, just wish it was scored on individual level/handicaps. I shoot about +6 on pro, and -4 on amateur. Quite a big difference with the device I play with.

It would be interesting to see the difference of a TP playing at Pro.

I'm curious to see what the difference would be and validate the tier movement up.

Any TP's willing to play say 3 or 4 rounds offline at Pro to give us something to compare the two levels ?

randy

Randy the only differences I see as a TP and I played Pro since I started the game what 5 yrs back. I never played amateur I went straight in at pro level.
aiming is the only difference I believe you just can't aim in the overhead.

If thats the only difference PG desperately need a couple of more levels, similar thing happened at WGT players could play the game with one eye shut, they had to do something as the game was going stale. I know the difference between amateur and pro on Motion swing on PG is massive maybe they should add more penalties in for tour pros when they move from pro rather than just an aiming penalty.

Biffa wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:34 pm If thats the only difference PG desperately need a couple of more levels, similar thing happened at WGT players could play the game with one eye shut, they had to do something as the game was going stale. I know the difference between amateur and pro on Motion swing on PG is massive maybe they should add more penalties in for tour pros when they move from pro rather than just an aiming penalty.

The difference between pro and tour pro on motion swing Biffa is more severe. To be honest i never noticed much difference between amateur and pro , well the penalty for a poor ratio was slightly more penal on pro. On tour pro its wild trying to get a good ratio and a good line free hand in the 3 second time frame is a test.

maxie wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:07 pm To be honest i never noticed much difference between amateur and pro

I thought it was huge ball shooting off to right like a shank, I tried motion on TP and found it the same as pro except for the aiming, each to his own finds I suppose.