maxie wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:39 pm
At the current pgls 18 out of the top 10 of so players average fairways is about 60% tour pro most are 3 click, i do understand the putting is tougher playing the controller, hands down probably the hardest in the game but if mastered and you are hitting the fairways it will cause all the wild not fair swing method arguements again .
I don't now about stats but in the first playoff event the winner hit every fairway and green in round 1 and a few weeks ago one of the top 3 hit around 67 greens and fairways out of 72. Yes in general most are at 60% but not all and in controller with legit controller 60% would be very tough. Also putts can be dialed in distance wise and that's why there are very few 3 putts in 3C while in RTSC you can't dial a distance anywhere and especially on greens and that's why you see a lot of 30 plus putting rounds. Pick an Xbox Controller up and try if you don't believe me. I am not hating on 3C as it's a special skill that takes a lot of practice to get to the elite level I am just trying to play again with my controller so I can hold up the field at the bottom as that is where I will spend most of my time. I got strong shoulders I just want that chance again.
Greensboronclion wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:31 pm it's a special skill that takes a lot of practice to get to the elite level I am just trying to play again with my controller so I can hold up the field at the bottom as that is where I will spend most of my time. I got strong shoulders I just want that chance again.
You are correct about 3C being a special skill. If a person's fingers and hand are able to click the buttons quickly, have excellent hand eye coordination and good eyesight we who started PC golf 25 years ago had only two choices: 2click and 3click on Windows 95-98 personal computers. When a player accumulates five years, let alone 25 years of a honed swing method for a golf game, it truly is a special skill for many of us. We can push or pull the ball to impart draw or fade but it's not easy to do this at Pro and Tour Pro levels (let alone hit the snap). However. When moving the mouse appeared in golf games in 1999 with both the Links and TW series I did try the RTS PS and TS swing methods. Back then, after three years of 3C I just could not get comfortable with moving the mouse.
As for controllers, I have never tried one on my home computer but have tried one in a computer store a few times. I still love my mouse.
Greensboronclion wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:31 pm it's a special skill that takes a lot of practice to get to the elite level I am just trying to play again with my controller so I can hold up the field at the bottom as that is where I will spend most of my time. I got strong shoulders I just want that chance again.
You are correct about 3C being a special skill. If a person's fingers and hand are able to click the buttons quickly, have excellent hand eye coordination and good eyesight we who started PC golf 25 years ago had only two choices: 2click and 3click on Windows 95-98 personal computers. When a player accumulates five years, let alone 25 years of a honed swing method for a golf game, it truly is a special skill for many of us. We can push or pull the ball to impart draw or fade but it's not easy to do this at Pro and Tour Pro levels (let alone hit the snap). However. When moving the mouse appeared in golf games in 1999 with both the Links and TW series I did try the RTS PS and TS swing methods. Back then, after three years of 3C I just could not get comfortable with moving the mouse.
As for controllers, I have never tried one on my home computer but have tried one in a computer store a few times. I still love my mouse.
You are correct and I played 3C since the inception of Links 386 in the 90's and was pretty good at it and can play TP here with it but not anywhere near the top anymore as I don't play enough of it. I broke my Links 2003 laptop and played a couple rounds at my favorite course Tall Pines and was just around par and in my day of playing Links my average score was around 60 and That's what happens when you don't play. That's the key why the guys at the top of the 3C world are so good due to practice and playing it for ever and if they were to stop for let's say a few months it would take awhile to get it back. I choose RTSC because I just got bored after almost 20 years of it and wanted a new swing. I will say this that 3C is the one swing I don't believe can be cheated but it's also a dying swing and we all know that. Those guys at the top are just really good and there is no way a controller guy will beat them.
3 click first way to play golf on the pc classic yes boring and easy to cheat with a macro, these NOT ALL 3 click golfers enjoy that way of playing as they are probably older than 60 ..BUT HERE IS THE BIG BUTT, as you get older reflexs get slow some of these OLDER 3 CLICK CLASSIC GUYS are still snap happy .Some of these older pc golf gamers have nothing better to do in life but just try their hardest to be the best GOD BLESS THEM , there is another world outside computer golf and pc tech , gosh i havent been playing many tours i have been on holidays with friends and family and doing lots of fishing. BUT pc golf online has always been full of tools
maxie wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:31 am
3 click first way to play golf on the pc classic yes boring and easy to cheat with a macro, these NOT ALL 3 click golfers enjoy that way of playing as they are probably older than 60 ..BUT HERE IS THE BIG BUTT, as you get older reflexs get slow some of these OLDER 3 CLICK CLASSIC GUYS are still snap happy .Some of these older pc golf gamers have nothing better to do in life but just try their hardest to be the best GOD BLESS THEM , there is another world outside computer golf and pc tech , gosh i havent been playing many tours i have been on holidays with friends and family and doing lots of fishing. BUT pc golf online has always been full of tools
Very true Maxie and I have been in Maine just travelling since July 25th and won't be back I'll the 25th of August and have not played any PC golf since. More to life than PC games and would rather be visiting Acadia National Park than playing. Cheers and enjoy your holiday.
When i played the tour with controller i got pretty good by playing everyday and more importantly visiting the range before every tour round to make sure i'm honed and ready. I played the game to death back then and won a few events and was battling with Affo and step most weeks. From my experience i can tell you that we are not robots and there is no way that you will pin seek every shot with a legit controller. The following points will be recognised by anyone playing controller legit.
Putting is hard to gauge required power, sometimes you will lip out thru too much pace.
Long irons into a green are the most difficult shots to pull off, if you see someone pin seeking constantly from distances over 150 yds the chances are they are not using a legit pad and settings, it's just too hard to pull off every shot.
Trying to take something off a clubs distance requires you to cut short the back swing by a small amount, this can mess up any shot as you are basically speeding up your transistion to downswing and this can sometimes throw you further off plane than a normal paced swing. I used to practice taking something off shots regular.
We get a break when it comes to green side shots because the dispersion is kind with controller on these shots, we do however still have to judge pace accurately. It takes good judgement to drop something like a 36yd pitch on the hole, the lowest club for this is 40yds so you have to try take something off and its not easy, takes practice.
Over power is a no no at tour pro with legit pad, bit more forgiving with wedges but medium to long irons and woods...you had better be balls accurate on plane or that ball is gone way left or right. I used to get thru a good round without ever being more than prob 2 off plane, but 2 off plane with an over power shot acts more like 6 off plane, if you hit a 6 you are most def not putting.
Remember, if you are playing with a controller player take note of his medium to long iron play, if he is hitting straight at the flag with every shot then he's prob not legit, a good player will for the most part be 1 or 2 off plane, on plane hits during a round are pretty rare, i used to maybe hit 4 or 5 shots on plane during an 18 hole round, be it from the tee or FW. Putting became a strong point of my game after i started putting from a side on view, this took a while to accept because it feels so alien, but its worth doing to improve your putting stats.
Just a simple question so don't get your poop in a knot.
The game changes from day to day - different courses different conditions - do my hands shake today - how solid is my internet connection.
One day you can hit the snap or the path, next day you can't break 100. How can you say what should or should not happen.
so back to my question.
where does one go to become a Legitimate Controller Player "Verified" is there a test somewhere that you have to pass if so why not just verify all the players that want to participate problem solved.
Not sure anyone ever said anything about the old zero axis Microsoft wired mouse - were they ever verified ?
altaedm wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:22 pm
Just a simple question so don't get your poop in a knot.
The game changes from day to day - different courses different conditions - do my hands shake today - how solid is my internet connection.
One day you can hit the snap or the path, next day you can't break 100. How can you say what should or should not happen.
so back to my question.
where does one go to become a Legitimate Controller Player "Verified" is there a test somewhere that you have to pass if so why not just verify all the players that want to participate problem solved.
Not sure anyone ever said anything about the old zero axis Microsoft wired mouse - were they ever verified ?
We all know there are zero axis mouse and controller so here is my view on it. If you play controller use only Microsoft Xbox 360 or Xbox One and the official PlayStation PS4 controller. Do not use any Logitech or especially the Speedlink controller and any 3rd party controller. Using the official one you will enjoy the game more and trust me you will not hit it straight very much. Us the ones I mentioned as not to use will result in shooting in the 50's all day as they are straight shooters. As for the mouse for 3C it doesn't matter as your hitting a mark an axis mean nothing. As for RTSM use a good gaming mouse as all that play that way will tell you it's really tough to hit anything straight with a gaming mouse. Don't use cheap non axis mouse playing RTSM as you will hit everything straight and never shank putts as all who play RTS mouse or controller with legit equipment will tell you the pushed and pulled putt is real.
